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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2008.07.31 11:14:00 -
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both are now: fragile, slow, effectively un tankable in pvp due to 2 resistances holes in armour and needing mids for tackling - neither has great firepower so i ask what do you use them for????
you spend years perfecting minny speed fits and recon's and now this - made all those skill points worth the trouble
hell i tested a fully nanoed vagabond on the test server with FULL snake implant set and i got 4.1km/s - god i'm ****ed
seems that they are now jsut expensive targets
and what about interceptors - anyone with light drones and light missiles will **** them so noob in a kestrel will pwn them
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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2008.07.31 13:17:00 -
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i'm selling my vaga's and rapiers now - i dont think there is really a fit that will work with them now - they were entirely speed and web reliant ships since both have been nerfed to high hell - hoping to sell them before people realise that fact
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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2008.07.31 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Roderigo Borgia on 31/07/2008 15:05:54
ironically the nerfed one of the best anti-nano ships too
hell tahts the whole point of huginn and rapier - even against the fastest ships rapier and huginn could **** em
if they dont stop nerfing thigns to make it easy for the noobs might as well rename the game wow in space
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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:14:00 -
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dont be silly - a vagabonds speed can be counters with a couple of trackign disruptors or ecm or interceptors or hell there are loads of ways to counter them my point is that they ruined teh vagabond and then ruined the only other useful minmatar t2 crusiers ( ok the broadsword is still ncie but give them time they have it in for the minmatar - will do doubt open a huge resistance hole in the shields soon )
liek was said - there are loads of ways to counter nano ships same way there is to counter other things - hell ecm is overpowered in my opinion - one falcon can remove a couple bs from a fight - ever seen a vagabond do that?
and i do resent the isk i have spend on vagabonds and rapiers and hungins not to mention the time spent on skilling for them which is now effectively useless
a vagabond has no use in pvp at all if it cant avoid damage bye going insanely fast and being highly mauneverable - a rapier is now what? cant effectively pin a target any more and since iwll now need 3 webbers and going slowly you now have no survivality - its like a gift to your enemies - oh look vagabonds and rapiers everyone get out your noob ships and lets kill those noobs
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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2008.07.31 17:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Lurana Lay
Um, maybe fight targets your size and smaller? Using, you know, TACTICS to avoid the dangerous stuff?
But I'm sorry you are no longer immune and can't pwn everything up to and including a BS and disengage at will anymore. 
thats my point though a vagabond would struggle vs a t1 crusier now - it has no point anymore - it didn't shield or armour tank - it had a speed tank - now it doesn;t have that either
as for engaging anything at will - 1 large energy neut will kill a vagabond - in precisely 6 seconds - 2 and its insta stopped - mwd is gone history bye bye
weapon disrutpros with range script forces vagabond into web range - vagabond dead or more senibly run away
huginn or rapier long range webb his ass and once again hes a sitting duck - cant move cant get into weapons range and jsut has to sit there till he dies
vagabonds had loads of ways to kill them - its just that now they have no way to survive
and the rapiers and huginns now cant stop ships - ah well jsut have to wait until the next patch when teh nerf the next ship noobs discover they cant kill - could be falcons next but then ccp has a caldari fetish so maybe not
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